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2012 evidence

how strong is the evidence for or against 2012 being the end of the world?

please include something to back you're reasons

No evidence worth a hoot at all for it.

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The details behind 21 December 2012 make no sense at all. The originator of the so-called prophecy studied at the University of Chicago in Arts more than 40 years ago. He was Jose Arguelles then. He now says time is faster than light (whatever that means) and that the way we measure time is harmful to all life on Earth (how does that work?).

He now calls himself Valum Voltan and says he is the re-incarnation of a Mayan priest and lives in New Zealand, last I heard. All this stuff was based on the fact that a Mayan count of days runs out of numbers on 21 or 23 December by our calendar. That has as much to do with the Mayan counting system as anything else. The Mayans counted by 20, then by 18s then by 20 again and so on.

The Mayans were pretty fair naked eye astronomers for a stone age people and had enough sense not to predict anything at all, except maybe party time. I reckon they were smarter than Arguelles.

But crazy as Arguelles ideas are, he did not say the world would end on 21 December 2012. All he said was that this would be the beginning of a new era. That was about 20 years ago.

Since then, people who are just as batty, but in a different way have grabbed his ideas and run away with them. Terence McKenna was an habitual user of mescalin, LSD or magic mushrooms and wrote down visions. He also produced a special (mis)interpretation of the I Ching, and when it didn’t quite fit 2012 he fudged it.

Another called Nancy Lieder claimed that aliens had abducted her about 1993 and told her that a planet called X would pass close to the Earth and cause a magnetic pole shift and other damage. That would be in 2003. Since it didn't come, she started making up stories of how it was a trial to test the governments of the world and that the planet would appear later. She usually says 2012 as far as I know.

Apart from Voltan, Mc Kenna and Lieder, others have jumped on the bandwagon and have predicted everything from bees dying to collisions with stray planets. There are supposed to be alignments with the other planets or the centre of the galaxy, a photon belt, crossings of the galactic central plane and on and on none of which will happen. And dear old nostradamus and Edgar Cayce get quoted too, as if anyone believes that stuff.

The promoters of this, including the History Channel are vicious liars and only in it for the money. They are trying to sell "survival" supplies, shelters, books, videos and what all, but to do that you have to frighten people first.

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there really is no proof just that the myan calender ends then they think it will be a solar flare or a REALLY, REALLY BIG meteor or a flood but don't worry about it just live your life to it's fullest anyways

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will the world end in 2012 ? im totally freaking out !?

ok i saw this 2012 movie, and i thought it was a false movie. so i looked on the internet and saw videos of the history channel talking about this end of the world event in 2012. more people say that its true, then some people said its not. will it happen in 2012 ? im so scared out of my mind and crying like crazyyy !

Nothing will happen. The whole thing is an invention by a bunch of frauds and crackpots trying to get you to buy worthless books and videos. None of it has any basis in real science. The people promoting this have no knowledge of science. They just like to pretend to be knowledgeable in order to impress the gullible. Don't be one of the gullible.
There is no 'ancient prediction' by the Mayans or anyone else. These were all invented in the last 20 years.
There is no 'mystery planet' about to pass by. Why don't the fraudsters tell us its current location in the sky, so we can all look at it? You decide.
There will be no rare alignment, either planetary or galactic. When was the last alignment that caused us any problems anyway?
There will be no pole shift. A magnetic pole shift is not imminent and probably tens of thousands of years away. A sudden rotational pole shift is a physical impossibility.
The next solar maximum is expected in mid 2013, not 2012 and is expected to be less intense than the last maximum in 2001.
Other predictions such as the photon belt and Terence McKenna's Timewave Zero are just too silly to bother with.

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No. Its all crap. They been saying that for years that the world is going to end, like that one time they said in 2000 the world would end because of computer crashing or something like that, but it never happened. They also said that a few other times, so i think its all just a bunch of bs. No one really knows when the world will end.

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is the prophesy of the end of the world in 2012 true?

I read books, skeptics and prophesies that have dated back all the way to mayans and egyptians witch is stated in there calendars that something will happen in 2012. Really is just curiosity. Just want to know what other people think. thanx!

The suggestion that there are lots of ancient writings by the Mayans, Egyptians and others pointing to some doomsday in 2012 is total bunk. It's been made up by the crackpots trying to promote this fake doomsday. When anyone does some proper research, they find that there's not a scrap of evidence, historical or scientific, for any of it. It's complete nonsense. Ignore it.

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I can think of books where some pretty major disasters happen, and can think of books that occur after the world "ended."

If you want a complex, over 600 page book with some pretty huge disasters, a fiction almost horror with an intricate plot, try The Scar by China Mieville. Perdido Street Station comes before it, but the two are only loosely related.

If you want one after the world "ended," try Exodus. Global warming flooded the world, and now people have to deal with it.

Bec by Darren Shan is about the world ending. It comes in the middle of the Demonata series but shares no characters with any of the previous books, so you should be okay reading it.

I just remembered. Good Omens by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman is about the Apocalypse, but it's fiction humor. The four horsemen ride out anf everything...

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